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An Interview with Horacio Pagani

Pagani’s Zonda was “inspired by race cars, not road cars”

In the spring of 2006, I had a chat with Hora­cio Pagani, whose epony­mous com­pany builds the Zonda. It is pub­lished here for the first time in its orig­i­nal English.


Hora­cio Pagani, immac­u­lately dressed, is sit­ting in a makeshift meet­ing room smack in the middle of a sprawl­ing Socialist-​era exhi­bi­tion hall in Kőbánya, one of the working-​class out­skirts of Budapest. While Kőbánya trans­lates to quarry, Pagani’s cars are any­thing but: for the first time since a rebuffed trac­tor­maker set out to beat Enzo Fer­rari at his own game, the Modena estab­lish­ment is wit­ness­ing a suc­cess­ful new­comer. Pagani’s Zonda is very much on par with Ferrari’s and Lamborghini’s best.

Pagani the man has been part of that estab­lish­ment since he left his native Argentina to pursue his dream of making super­cars in Modena, which has been the ground zero of the busi­ness for decades.

Horacio Pagani

“The Modena scene all began with Maserati, to be suc­ceeded by Fer­rari, then Lam­borgh­ini. They have cre­ated a legacy here, a tra­di­tion. In the begin­ning, they were all mainly engine pro­duc­ers, while the chas­sis were made in Torino by the famous car­rozzerie like Pin­in­fa­rina and Bertone. Nev­er­the­less, the cars were always assem­bled in the Modena area, and it became pres­ti­gious to set up shop here. The sup­pli­ers fol­lowed, and the locals learned how to suc­cess­fully work in this business.”

Making super­cars is undoubt­edly a weird busi­ness to be in. Unfor­giv­ing eco­nom­ics, long devel­op­ment times and finicky cus­tomers con­spire to put all but the most determined—or lucky—out of busi­ness. Pagani’s career at Lam­borgh­ini pro­gressed from sweep­ing floors to design­ing the 25th Anniver­sary Coun­tach. He then left Lam­borgh­ini to become a con­sul­tant in making carbon fiber, the light­weight, brit­tle, hand­made plas­tic all modern super­cars are made of. And like most boys, Pagani dreamed of build­ing his own car one day.

But unlike most, he fol­lowed through with it.

“I have cul­ti­vated my dream every day. I tried to turn all the dif­fi­cul­ties into fuel to con­tinue and, at a cer­tain point, I put together a good team of people. You cannot do any­thing on your own. Basi­cally, I believed in what I wanted to do—and I did it.”

One of those people was Loris Bic­oc­chi, an old Modena hand, who has helped sort out cars for pretty much every­one in the area, moving from Pagani to Koenigsegg to Bugatti. His wife Roberta is Pagani’s spokes­woman and it is she who keeps our con­ver­sa­tion flow­ing, trans­lat­ing between my Eng­lish and Pagani’s Italian.

“My Zonda was inspired by race cars, not road cars! Mainly from the late Eight­ies. From back when race­cars were still quite ele­gant and roman­tic, and not designed through aero­dy­nam­ics like they are now. There have been other sources of inspi­ra­tion out­side of cars, like Patek Philippe watches, Riva speed­boats and fighter jets. All these com­po­nents have com­bined to make the Zonda as it stands today.”

Pagani is a bou­tique man­u­fac­turer even by super­car stan­dards. Yet in a move that sig­nals just how much the com­pany has grown since its debut at the 1999 Geneva Auto Show with the Zonda C12, Pagani now has trou­ble count­ing the exact number of cars he’s built:

“We have deliv­ered 67 or 68 of them. 64 of them are street legal like the ones parked out­side [an F and a Road­ster F], and we have also made three which are not. They were made on demand for dif­fer­ent cus­tomers who wanted to have some­thing special.”

Horacio Pagani turns his back on a Bugatti Veyron

Some­thing spe­cial! It is at this point when I con­sider a pro­foundly dis­turb­ing ques­tion: how does it feel to have your life’s work cul­mi­nate in a sub­lime car and know that most of them will be bought by people with moun­tains of money and very little taste? How do you cater to a taste­less demand you cannot refuse? Every­one from Ettore Bugatti on must have come across this unpleas­ant but vital aspect of build­ing machin­ery that hap­pens to be very, very pretty. Green and polite and a little bedaz­zled, I let the ques­tion slip and we turn to the Zonda’s Mercedes-​sourced V12 engine instead:

“It was Juan Manuel Fangio, my mentor, who made the first con­tact with Mercedes–Benz. He believed it would be good to have a Mer­cedes engine for a car all about desire. I knew I would need a good, reli­able engine, because I couldn’t build my own, and Mer­cedes has proven to be a fine choice in that respect as well.”

It had admit­tedly crossed my mind to play the prank of address­ing Pagani as Mr. Paganini and ask him about his violin play­ing skills but I decide to go for a more subtle nag at his ego: what would his car of choice be for a drive across Europe if he couldn’t take the one he built himself?

“It would have to be another super­car! I like all the super­cars. It wouldn’t make a dif­fer­ence whether I’d take a Porsche Car­rera GT or a Fer­rari Enzo. I drive a Zonda anyway when one is avail­able at the fac­tory. If not, I use my Mercedes–Benz CL coupé.”

Horacio Pagani rides a Zonda-themed chopper

As futur­is­tic as it still appears, the Zonda is seven years old now. Pagani turns to his plans for its successor:

“We began devel­op­ing a new car three years ago. You will cer­tainly see it share famil­iar traits with the Zonda and I’m very enthu­si­as­tic about where the design is headed. Now that we have estab­lished our­selves as a car­maker, it is an even bigger chal­lenge to build a new car. People now have expec­ta­tions! Nobody had expected any­thing when they first saw the Zonda. So yes, build­ing a worthy suc­ces­sor will be very chal­leng­ing, but I’m quite happy with the way the design and devel­op­ment process is going.”

Before we say our good­byes, Pagani inquires about the Zonda’s status with the car nerds of Hun­gary. I men­tion the rel­a­tive scarcity of first-​hand knowl­edge: there is one known owner here, a Kuwaiti man who owns at least three of those 67—or 68—and had, in fact, orga­nized this very exhi­bi­tion. I express my wishes to double that number one day.

We shake hands and I emerge into the open hall, flanked by two Zonda F’s and cir­cled by a throng of gawk­ers furi­ously striv­ing for the best phonecam shots of the cars. Pagani’s cell phone goes off with the sound of a Zonda V12 engine in the red. Even though he’s got the phone in his hand, he lets it ring a few times before he picks it up and goes back inside.


This inter­view was con­ducted in April 2006 and a Hun­gar­ian trans­la­tion was posted on Total­car. It has never been pub­lished in its orig­i­nal Eng­lish before. Pagani has since man­u­fac­tured an addi­tional 30+ Zondas, which you must already know from our field guide.


Published on Wednesday, February 18th, 2009